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SHAWN · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 484

Again, great stuff Don, keep it coming.
JG300-Ascout-- it helps that you can see the .45 coming...
you are absolutely correct, it only takes a small hole to allow that molten hot surface of the sun to jet thru and make for a very unhappy day...
dont know all the technical terms but the smaller the hole the more concentrated that jet stream will be and all that... and if I am not mistaken it will flare out/expand on the opposite side, very nasty, it is bad luck to talk about this?
make any correction if I have been incorrect

Dontos · Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

Back to the top with some interesting information to add in the life of the 'mythical' JUMBO.

Neil
The T33 at APG was one of 3 converted M4A3E2 JUMBOs tested in 1948. I found documentation showing the 3 vehicles (SN 50343, 50414, & 50424

The APG T33 was RN 3083011 (SN 50414)of which I discovered numerous photos during the 1948 time frame.

Additionally I found numerous photos of the AEB, Ft Knox tested the T33 which was RN 3083021 (SN 50424)

No clue at this time where # 3 went to, but hugely successful digging out info on 2 of 3 converted JUMBOS.

Interesting stuff, but unfortunately didn't have the time to scan any 'new' photos. Hope to get those and more in the next few days.

Don

Joe_D · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

And stealth is even better....

Better not to be seen to avoid being shot at.

But Tanks and Stealth are sorta oxy-moronic.

JG300-Ascout · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:27 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

- Joe_D

To think this was top secret at the time,

Imagine what they did/ are doing with tanks/AFV's since then at Aberdeen.

At the Armor Board and Armor School, this was known as "tryin' to blow some s*** up. I recall examining scores of penetrations, if not hundreds, wherein the typical diameter of the hole (that bit that would pass light) ranged from the size of a dime, up to a quarter. Some were just big enough to push a pencil through, but you knew very well that the effect would be unsurvivable most of the time. Very sobering.

The public gets all horney when they see the big impacts and explosions with oodles of flame...looks impressive on film, especially in slo-mo. The crews are impressed with those holes the size of a No. 2 pencil that intrudes into their compartment (with all it's attendant ammo) after the fact. I remain amazed at how small the penetrations need be to effectively render an MBT both useless and lifeless.

Like the saying goes, I'd rather be missed with a .45 than hit by a .22.

Joe_D · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

To think this was top secret at the time,

Imagine what they did/ are doing with tanks/AFV's since then at Aberdeen.

Buq-Buq · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 04, 2006 Posts: 86

Oh, and by the way Don — great stuff you're digging up here. Thanks very much.

Mark

Buq-Buq · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 04, 2006 Posts: 86

ummm . . . What Jeff said.

Wow.

JeffStringer · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 637

Wow.

Dontos · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

....and another photo of the 'Splash test' tank.

Don

Dontos · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

I made a quick visit to get some info. Here is what I was able to get, in reference to Impact testing of Jumbo #1:

Regards
Don

Joe_D · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

Bitte Sehr,

Hoffentlicht konnen sie die bilden benutzen.

My feeble attempt at using German, Hopefully Jens can excuse me Laughing

.

Dontos · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:28 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

'SHO NUFF' Vielen Dank

Don

Joe_D · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:11 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

Why yes, it does,

And I see the obvious. Thanks Don.

BTW, Did you get the package???

Dontos · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

Try the link in the footnotes, it works

Don

Joe_D · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:01 am Post subject: Re: M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault tank

Just tried the link using AFV ver 3.0,

As Doug would say, "Linky no worky" . I guess 3rd ACR done closed up shop at Fort Cartoon.. uh I mean Carson.

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